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talk of the party in Arcore
TM: hmmm yesterday that goes well, in the sense we are, there are different types desperate the end is clear that there are times when there are more people and times when, perhaps, are hardly more serious is not it? Last night, and you do not know, because in reality is like in all things, a bit 'by the landlord that the style of the evening is not it?
BV: nods
TM and then makes the calls. Last night there were Many girls, like a score, and there was him and his faithful friend who has a role importanteeee, Bassino, mmmm, now goes well, however, very tan eee, which speaks well of him, venerates its own, (inc.) you can come up with who he is, anyway ... eeee then there was another person still eemm these three of them and just, and all girls. Eeeee we are your revenue without any kind of control in the sense that you come out of the house, eee say your name and go through the machine safely. I had my purse, my cell phone, no one looked at me, nobody asked me anything. Then, cross the threshold and enter. Eeee the input is just that, but not informal, more. Why do these people call "love - darling" that is, but its overall level of meanness. You do not imagine anything that you can imagine. Make it mmmm
BV: No, I can only imagine what is written in the newspapers.
TM here, practically in the newspapers say much less than the truth. That is, even when, even when, say, massacre, no, that is, is much worse! Much more sad and very piùùù. I tell you, there's nothing dangerous, it's all on me I just left a bad taste in my mouth. But not because I was afraid, no no no, for the desolation that is, you know when you see those things ...
BV, but most of the person or persons?
TM: No, the people .. Okay .. the person is and I tell you, that I have had direct contact is not that I met him, I just met, but because he was waiting for me, and he introduced me to everyone welcomed me in a certain way , 'he dedicated the song that is just ...
BV: so it was just
TM: yes yes yes
BV: hospitable?
TM: yes yes yes hospitable, but had not understood the question, maybe he and the rest is used if a go there .. no?
BV: nods
TM is ready for anything we say, but I know as you know, I have trouble saying no to anyone so I was in my corner ....
BV (inc.) you own.
TM: How?
BV: I say no, we needed a person like you from anyway.
TM: a yes! Or another began to cry? ...
BV: In order to ...
TM: Yes Yes
BV: a handle on, something that maybe you do not expect that you're not used ....
TM: Yes, that is, or one you put in a difficult or takes a taxi and goes home or is there a ... so to speak. Why you may even be weaker, so no, this absolutely informal atmosphere, dinner, honored with many present that I forgot, but it is not true, there I left them there on purpose ....
BV: nods
TM in the sense that, were it goes well, apart from bad as they say (laughs) You know those stuff farfallesche 'and things that are not from me, so maybe if I had something like me I would also be required, but no. It 's a very nice person, much of the company, that is, the image (inc.) let's say you submit is true.
BV: nods
TM: sing, no no
B. V. : Charisma, charismatic.
TM here, but no.
BKno?
TM: I ended a lot. Me. I seemed to have not faced him, but
caricatures of the 'Bagaglino'
BV: nods
TM here, I lived through the night like in 'Bagaglino'. You know those dives that vulgarity is not even all that imaginative or built? It is not "Eyes Wide Shut"
BV: no no
TM: The movie with Tom Cruise, that is, no!
BV: no no no
TM: a trivial stuff here. I felt there. In this thing where a certain punto durante la serata con l’Agostino di turno, tipo Maria De Filippi, quello con la pianola che canta, a un certo punto, non si sa bene come o perchè, qualcuno ha iniziato a far vedere il culo e da li la serata è decollata.
B.V.:ah!
T.M: in un susseguirsi di cose più o meno volgari, ma come se fosse naturale e ti dico tutti davanti a tutti quindi questo buttasù…
B. V. : ma questo a tavola? Dopo cena?
T.M: no no, a tavola mentre si mangiava. Dopo di che ci si è alzati e la cosa è peggiorata nella lato diciamo, no nel lato, in una sala-discoteca mmm è lì il degenero più totale cioè proprio siamo, ripeto, in un puttanaio in which it maintains as best we believed. That is, in the end everyone is free to do whatever he wants in the sense that it is not a private house? And I repeat, I stress that nobody offered me anything asked for anything that is absolutely not at all alluded to. I have been sitting all night, rather than the cigarette fumarmi rather than to send a message to the phone, absolutely respected. Once you know, just the fact of seeing certain things can put you in trouble
.
BV: nods
TM: maybe he thinks you know what you going to do, but because if all of them is true. No?
BV: Excuse me one thing, but you were not been così, diciamo, preparata a…
T.M: allora no, in realtà no, fino a un certo punto, nel senso che lei mi aveva detto non ti scandalizzare, vedrai dai un po’ di tutto, ma io pensavo di vedere o delle avances o della disponibilità che poi però si sarebbe concretizzata in un’altro posto. Cioè, capisci che se io vedo uno che ammicca o una che dice dai dai dai, che ne so, è un conto no? Se poi io vedo un bacio è un altro discorso…
B. V. : annuisce
T.M: e poi io non ne vedo uno, ma ne vedo venti (20) ….
B. V. : poi tu dici, se tanto voglio dire è uno lo spazio c’è t’immagini…piuttosto…
TM: that! Brava! brava!
BV: one goes to get his affairs elsewhere say.
TM: good, good is what I have not been explained. The reason for this 'buttasù' collective and indeed, to turn right? That is, I can give a kiss to one as to another, but so, I repeat again and again and in front of everyone without any sense. Why, then, here's the show that there is a desire to show that you do for me. And in this there must be .... at the end ... boh ... this is a very very big person anyway. You could almost say now, not old, but still ...
BV: nods
TM: I mean, it has a certain age.
BV: yes you should have some more ...
TM, but not so.
BV: you should not live this way.
TM: No, because ....
BV: these things ....
TM: I would like to stress that the level of beauty, rather than sympathy or intelligence was ten (10) and praise. That is, not all ... there are the desperate Venezuelan who does not speak a word which has the clothes and hallucinating, (cough) is not even saying that ...
BV (inc.) is all TM: ten (10) and also for pretty girls, because a beautiful Nicole is well aware that beauty has some very flashy, but it is a person who knows how to dress in the end no? And last night in fact (inc.) end. I can be less beautiful, but I have a certain kind of way you do, however ... end
BV: yes yes
TM: but no. There were some scary people.
BV: a low level anyway? Da da ...
TM: a very low level.
BV: ... things that you see on television anyway?
TM: No, but there were subjects of that in that environment, I can quote you the 'Cipriani'.
BV: oooooo
TM: yes yes yes yes yes. absolutely.
BV: Oh she looks, she would like to know if there is or there is but I think there is. Sure!
TM: beeper at the end of them all ... I repeat, a desire that is in that call, I just, I've been on the sidelines and end of the evening I was also asked: "but you have fun?" And I told him "Well, in short, this is not my way," but I tell you that I saw him physically different in the sense that when you can see certain things he does, has a kind of me, let it be to see that s 'is remade who has drawn, however, has an air of a person that is very firm, even as he speaks is a communicator is not it?
At least that's one that sells well ....
BV: carsimatico for what I said in that ...
TM: but no. He looked like a watch, I tell you, I am very well the figure of the 'Bagaglino' ... that is a caricature.
BV: a caricature of himself.
TM: Yes, bru .. look, something very bad and very sad.
BV: why so much want to tell you, that is, it is completely excluded from what is their say so, I mean their profession.
TM: Absolutely. Maybe I thought that he maintained an attitude and then did his business. But no. Absolutely not. That is, he is in a certain way, but very low and I regret it, BHO? No need ...
BV, but maybe sometimes there are indeed such things are just very heavy, I do not know perhaps based on certain things, get to say like "you're sick," that is, its wife said.
TM: yes yes yes yes, but not but look, maybe, I do not know ...
BV (inc.)
TM: But beyond all that chee is one thing, I'll I safely say, sometimes one, until you see some things you may not realize ...
BV: no but in fact, no, but it is what I did I tell you (inc.) was for yes in the sense, and because it still is, I know you and know that, as it is, that is, not that you go to a (inc.), that is, not you imagine that this is a dangerous situation you understand? But in my opinion, that is, that is, mmm, you see many, many things only if you have a chance to see for yourself understood? Of of of ....
T. M: but above all ....
BV: to live them understand?
TM: What is a moment?
B. V: But I do not know, I do not know what the moral is, you take home? in the sense ...
TM: No, the morality that I take home is that it takes a while really wanting to AAA, they had more in a material sense, then I'll explain this even better, now is not
BV (inc .) yes yes
TM is a short step. Because if you think about the end, even people you think maybe unattainable, in the end, I tell you, cross the threshold of their house without any problem particolareee.
BV: a volteeee, so life will take you from, even in unexpected situations.
TM: Yes. unpredictable. And you see me, I what I see, I am that is what we say, that I have thus considered again, but I could not think of is that in your life that counts much, much, much, maybe I've changed my mind, more health, which unfortunately goes well, can sometimes not be there, but they are true and sincere human relations. Because when you see just one person who also has so much power, so much money, that really could do anything, because most of us all together,
BV: Madonna!
TM: (inc.) reduces to do this, instill mean, that is, I'm rather with his nephew's son, his wife did not know, okay?
BV: Madonna, there was.
TM: Well done! Anything I do or rather a fid ... so I say, I saw that many pretty girls did not say no, no? So I do pretty girlfriend so cool in less than thirty years and I enjoy it. OR ... ancheee
BV: But from a sense ....
TM: (inc.) do make sense. I tell you
BV: You say, you do not see the sense?
TM: no. No, do not have it. Because I tell you, then you want the beautiful lover in your room which ones you want are you doing? But what is the point I'm 'puttanaio'? and there is lack, the impossibility Constr .. Are you afraid to build a relationship because you think it is still interested and then do a little 'holiday so, why not tie it to anyone. Why do not you find with anyone until all that is 'BULIRONE' So I'll repeat, I have heard, but also the girls who were there with whom I spoke then, and they with each other, however, there is a lot of rivalry and competition
BV (inc.) secure this.
TM: a haunted stuff. In fact ... I
BV: they are all much the same purpose (inc.)
TM: Absolutely.
Back to talk about Nicole Minetti
BV: laa who knows, maybe she is seen as pretty? From her, (inc.) result
TM: Yes Yes No, I tell you that I come home, saying if you really look into the life you are lucky enough to have good relations, but also a few words with the people they count you are well.
BV (inc.)
TM: Live well, however, because I said it's health, because even if you're sick and you still support, however, if you're only six or false or are you envious eee, do the ugly life. Make a really bad life.
BV: mmm but in fact, it'll tell you in general even at very words, because there is the very highest level because
TM: Of course!
BV: But even more so at much smaller so that is smaller certain circles that can be seen in every part of you understand? In my opinion ..
TM: a yes, review the same dynamic yes yes.
B. V,: eeemmm them is perhaps the highest level peròòò fact I tell you, when (inc.) because poor but not type, maybe sometimes when Maddy to me makes me certain things right? I wonder, but what should go look? And it seems, understand? The boy, fun,
TM: I know.
BV: the desire to be free. But free for what? ie, free to be abused by the first passing? Face, so I want to tell you, unfortunately I too have made my mistakes, so in the end, what did you leave? Some things, as you say, not true, not true, because it well, then there may be a time that is not something that just does not come you do not know you neeee
TM: yes yes yes yes
BV: from , is only one now, always,
T. M: falls madly in love ..
BV (inc.) with her. There may be the time that you know is something is destined to end there, however, maybe once cheeee, but I want to tell you, in the end, of course, those things are true contano cheee… cioè, anche se magari puoi avere una vitaaaa, meno spericolata, dì, magari una vacanza in più saprebbe da fare, anzi, più che una, però…
T.M: però guarda che non è così…
B. V. : però io in un certo mondo
T.M: no, no (inc.)
B. V. : dico, vedi molta solitudine come dici tu, cioè in generale.
Tornano a parlare delle ragazze di Arcore
T.M: sì. E poi guarda che, ti ripeto, alla fine la vacanza in più adesso, non so come dirti… lì è talmente tutto eccessivo che vivresti una realtà talmente accelerata che poi alla fine, more in the bag or the holiday more you buy, the more you do not like that either. I understand this, that if I enter into this vortex, but beyond that I would get into anything, then finish you always want more and you see these girls then I repeat, I will tell you even more detail, who already have something that would be quite enough to live on, but no good, because then they also want the gift then they also want a certain position then please nudge, then e'hanno sister and brother-in-law of the place is something scandalous .
BV, but Tuu. that is, in fact you said you talked about but e'ho girls all seem silly, all crazy all clever, all eee
TM: molteee
BV: apart from the envy that goes Well ..
TM: Yes Yes Yes No, I do not so much because I had against them was outside and I knew it was that time and then just more or less, and as I said, but you could tell, that I was the only eee ... I was fine with, because I had put ipantaloni those with a high waist with the other begins, a little 'low-cut, however I was not wearing makeup is that now I was a nun, but I was different from them because some were just, I repeat, much television very much 'cube', so I was different, however, there was only one., c’erano solo altre due ragazze coi jeans e un’altra con un pantalone poi tipo 15 (quindici) in mini abito, quindi sai, già quello tifa un po’ capre no? No, non tutte stupide, c’erano un paio con cui ho
parlato e anche quelle che poi hanno avuto l’atteggiamento più contenuto
B. V. : annuisce
T.M: dopo eee che però, una viene dalla Romania, ma non so, cioè è da tantissimi anni qui in Italia nel senso che non è che le sentì l’accento no, adesso propriooo
B. V. : annuisce
T.M: sono arrivata ieri. Però sai, molte brasiliane venezuelane ti dico, poi, integrate..
B. V. : Nods
TM: zoccolissime with me while I'm not just talking about, I have not compared because there is a question of being right
BV (inc.)
TM: since you've done them on the road But here with that jump because I did not speak.
BV (inc.)
TM, but I think they do it for money. I tell you the truth.
BV: so it will run a lot.
TM: Yes. I can tell you safely to be understood, I repeat, I have arrived and entered directly into this room and indeed it is addressed with epithets 'LOVE TREASURE' and he says 'HELLO' Sara, Francesca, Antonella ah, ci sei anche tu? La ragazza dalle due lauree piacere, siccome so che ti piace il francese ‘enchanté’ di qua e di là, quindi, questo è stato l’approccio, cioè, amici miei no io mi ero studiata tutto buona sera, di qua e di là, come mi rivolgo gli do del voi, faccio l’inchino… sto par di coioni! Capito?
B. V. : ma perché quindi le persone ovviamente gli dan tutte del tu?
T.M: si, ma perché non saprebbero coniugare i verbi a una diversa persona, molte (ride) va be, e poi perché loro stesse si pongono così cioè proprio da ere., cioè no ma, sono persone anche molto limitate ti dico io comunque, if I see a major character, the producer
BV: (inc.) than from.
TM film, I went to introduce myself and I told him very \u0026lt;piacere, lieta>, that is, as he looked at me and almost like being there but I risked out of place, because if they want to be free of beasts idiots and they see someone who looks a certain way ....
BV (inc.) the paradox just
TM: Siiiii
BV: a paradox.
TM: they feel embarrassed.
BV (inc.)
TM: I was embarrassed.
BV: you think!
T.M: io ero imbarazzante.
B. V. : maaa. ma la tua compagna era tranquilla?
T.M: no! no no no no no lei stessa si è prestata assolutamente al gioco. Io poi ne ho parlato e lei ee molto tranquilla, nel senso che la Nichi non è una che ti dice le puttanate o si nasconde dietro un dito, altrimenti non mi avrebbe portato, quindi io questo l’ho apprezzato alla fine, e lei…
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B.V.: (inc.)
T.M: a sicuramente, lei poteva evitare, e ciao. Quindi evidentemente per le persone ne vale la pena per alcune no? Per soldi, far prestarsi a certe cose, per me neanche per tutto l’oro del mondo.
BV: So you., Say, ask, you would not trade places with his position?
TM, but not, I swear, for all the gold in the world. But why am I me and not
exchange for nothing. Then if ....
BV: No, but .. Now why joked a bit ', but the other day from, and I know that you could not go there for who knows what purpose, but still as mean, come on?
TM: yes yes yes yes
BV: are people .. asp you .. that is, just by your words you say mmmm, not a person who may consider it all bad, is a person who can give you many ideas right? That is, as say ...
TM: Yes, the problem is that
BV: is not an interesting person?
TM: brava! No, no it was not.
BV: And you had, then as you say, You did not tell you that you had (inc.) went with that goal, however, as it were, from? If there is even a chance
TM: Yes! Yes Yes Avre .. yes, because I thought that the approach was different, however, that there was a time, now I will not tell institutional, no? Why not! But I thought there was a serious moment and then, again, a degenerate or a change in which, however what I do on my own. So, if I had a channel where the series, do an interview with a person not? And this person tells me so \u0026lt;aaa torna, riparliamo> eh! I would go, you know? but since, has opened a kind of night where I do not know if he knew, or at least understand, that I was not into that as I intended, but
no longer even ask myself the question, that is, or Nicole calls me and tells me see, you want to talk and I say look \u0026lt;no Niky più> and he does not come in that do not come any more, says no no no, but let's meet at the office at four o'clock, okay? It 's another matter. And even there we thought very well, because again, I do not like! but I asked Nicole, but some people do not seem to me that all of the beefy as they do have certain roles, the road is unique? And she told me \u0026lt;no no, but through him it is easy sia>
BV: Well ... then
TM: No, but mmm I say, for example, I did not think there was a system, end of the night, call of thanks and leave when you get something.
BV: and all the people all the time?
TM: (inc.) no, good! Not at all.
BV: nods
TM at its discretion, as indeed, a landlord no? on everything we say can have preferences and tastes, at some point, I say, that was the approach to the beginning where she told me those two things are song she sang in French just because then I have no spoken to, after which the son was named Nicole mmm eh, but on the sidelines, in his office, \u0026lt;ah, as you're not as stata, stata> and just as I said no, not my style he told me \u0026lt;guarda, I would give a contribution to this is your studi, quanto>. I'm there, because I have not done anything wrong and since I am told \u0026lt;assets pleasure to help in their studies, perchè la Nicole mi
dice che, studi, sei una brava ragazza, tieni> io lì ho detto grazie ho preso e sono andata e quando mi è stato detto <ahhh, maaa non mi ringrazi?> tipo una battuta, che però ho capito benissimo a cosa si riferisse, ho detto <no!> della serie, il mio ringraziamento è dire grazie! Anche perchè altrimenti no? Questa cosa te la puoi tenere! Tu mi dici che mi aiuti per gli studi guarda, fai pure. E, visto che non mi hai chiesto niente e che io non tornerò mai più no? quindi per dirti che…
B. V. : ti giuro che non riesco a immaginarmelo.
T.M: no, è una cosa anche abbastanza you ce f ... another? That is, even back next time. That's for sure.
BV: Indeed.
TM also because, that is, I'm not, that is say, quast'anno I have not had the 'scholarship' and I had the same. So to speak.
BV: nnn ahh so it was not a gift we say?
TM: no no no no no.
BV: ahhhhh!
TM: mmmmm
BV: So then you have accepted?
TM: I will have, as I said
BV (inc.)
TM, but I myself, I imagine you, except that I have not had time to think, I must say truth. In fact today I was a little 'difficulty in itself because I did not expect. That is, even there, I was not prepared. So you imagine that you come to be called and you are greeted brings a co 'door?' Grant, por, port is give you something? Do not you say?
BV: inc.
TM: boh! One thing that is obviously not closed that is visible.
BV: nods
TM: You do not know the exact content, but you know what it is because if someone tells you for your support \u0026lt;an studi> are not candy.
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TM: that scema!
B.V.: e va bè, dai!
T.M: però ti dico, mmmm, non è il massimo. Cioè, tu in quel momento cosa fai? <No grazie, nnnn non li voglio> forse sì. Adesso che che ho vissuto il momento forse (inc.) finito direi ‘no no grazie!’ Lì per lì ho detto ‘grazie!’ ma non è che cioè mmm forse non pensavo..
B. V.: perchè se dici., perchè tu hai fatto il ragionamento tanto a questa persona non cambiano la vita, magari a me potrebbero (inc.)
T.M: nooo, io non io ti dico, la verità, purtroppo il ragionamento non ho avuto il tempo di farlo.
B. V. : annuisce
TM: I was in a new situation in a moment that is the height of, I do not think that in life I will have another time so embarrassing, that is, whatever I feel like a walk now.
BV: (Laughs) I just needed this to you!
TM: Indeed. I could ..
BV: (laughs) and exciting life you have. I have not had.
TM: But look. I'm there for them I said thanks, because his sentence was that \u0026lt;so studies and are a good ragazza….>
BV: why did he give you a useful purpose in fact.
TM: Yes.
BV (inc.)
TM: m'avesse said \u0026lt;uei senti, since you're a nice figa..> that, I said yes, thanks bye. As I repeat, I learned to say no when I said but I do not \u0026lt;ahh, ringrazi?> and I had already said thanks, then, was, I repeat, very clear, then we'll talk, the kind of thanks. And I said no! I shot his ass and went ehhh, but as such, dry, Nicole told me that the \u0026lt;ho tremato> I said 'your dicks'. I mean, I just do not! If you want to laugh all you want back understand? Then perhaps I shall be innocent, I said thanks too hastily because I thought it was the most painless and faster. I did not want to put myself in position to be there, 10 (ten) minutes to justify any 'no thanks' ... I mean, to me at that time was the best way to go was to say 'thank you'
BV: Well of course! It was still to be decided.
TM: Exactly! Thank you, goodbye. That is, for me it was the best. Why then to understand, I repeat, there are people who do not know, Bob? Mmmm maybe going back I would say 'no thanks I do not need' because I also, naively, then I do not even think about what can be? How much? How big? Got it?
BV: nods
TM: maybe there's no reasoning do not know, but, to tell you what happened and to tell you that it takes a seriousness and dignity not to return next week.
BV: yes yes
TM: ... but I
BV: did you eat well? (Laughs) question you wanted to do.
TM: eee mmm, the food is not the thing being pointed at. In that sense, there being many who arrive a bit 'when he wants ....
BV, but type 30 (thirty) 40 (forty) 50 (fifty)?
TM: No, no, less less less. Also because, I tell you, there is he and all girls, then the fine should have 50 (fifty) nnn never ends.
BV (inc.) told me 20 (twenty).
TM: 20 (twenty) yes.
BV: then 25 (twenty five) with ....
TM: Yes, good!
BV: among all?
TM: Now I have not counted, but I'd say yes.
BV: table is an average, in short, see you all? Ie., No It
TM: Yes, well, you do not see all
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TM overlapping voices, but perhaps 20/25 (twenty to twenty five) girls, so a maximum of 30 ( thirty), however, people, all inclusive.
BV: No, as I said you had eaten ipiatti type?
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TM: Very easy
BV: mmm
TM: Well yes, yes, a good machine in the kitchen and instead say, like homemade in the sense that things are not are a challenge to anyone. A starter as a kind of caprese, a pasta, risotto was a Sunday that was good, the grilled chicken, a little 'to tell you that parmigiana moltooo
BV: good?
TM: yes yes yes good, very simple but good. Very long .. the matter ... I am back home ...
BV. What time did you ':?
TM: there two and a half
BV: iiooool
TM: Yes Yes
BV, but it is very late?
TM: ee, but I tell you ....
BV: heck??
TM: Yes Yes
BV, but nooo
TM: do you realize that you get between nine and ten and a half (21.30/22.00) BV-eh
.ah
TM: Not at eight. (20.00)
BV: ee, now that they do everything ... and then there was no image of relatives?
TM, but it goes! but for goodness sake!
BV, neither the children nor
TM: mmmmm no! But I hope they do not know ... emmm
BV, but no, obviously they know (inc.) pretend not to see.
TM: mmmm
BV: or did not know?
TM: No, but a little sorry, because, I tell you, I wanted to I would say 'listen, you can not do anything better?' For you ... sts boh?
BV, but want ... but there is no ness boh? (Inc.) is because he does not know, that ... boh, I do not know, is too complex psychology in this case. Why that is, if you do not know why you do not know if it means that you are really freaked out then I really worry for us all. That is, I want to tell you, there will be a person who cares that I love you really or are you really so arrogant that you do not give a damn about anything you can tell people you give a damn.
TM: Or, when you have so much power, the more people that if they can take advantage. And in the end not know, try to take as he can. I do what I've seen is this, go go. I'll leave you dearly.
BV: Okay.
TM after.
BV: I'm sorry but I really did not know, otherwise I'll write a message obvious.
TM: but go, do not worry, go, I salute you, go
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